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Postby iamafireman » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:24 pm

Gonna get a new laptop in a day or so and was wondering what worked and what doesnt? I know that can be a long list but the short list will do. I have palyed with linux in the past but never really got the hang of it, plus i had an old computer that just wasnt running well. I am looking at a HP laptop with an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 and NVIDIA GeForce 7150M graphics. Are there any known issues with this configuation?? any other suggestion would be appreciated aswell as far as what i might should look for if i might get an intel base system. thanks in advance
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Re: new laptop??

Postby cowboy » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:55 pm

That looks good..what wireless card is it running,,some are hard to get going.. ;)
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Re: new laptop??

Postby iamafireman » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:14 pm

not sure about the wireless card but heres a couple of links

here

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Re: new laptop??

Postby LeadFingers » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:08 pm

One thing to consider before buying a laptop, Linux has better support for Nvidia Video.
If you can find one with Nvidia Video you will have better graphics and an easier instillation of your Video drivers.

When you get ready to do your Ultimate Edition installation you can save yourself some headache...
Boot from the Ultimate Edition DVD,
Let it load completely,
Open Partition Editor System/Administration/Partition Editor

If you're using the whole drive for Ultimate Edition
Delete the partition/partitions
Create a 2 or 3Gb /swap partition at the end of the drive
Format it ext3
Leave the rest unallocated
Hit the Apply button
When it's complete, close Partition Editor
Hit the Install Icon and follow the steps

If you're duel booting
Shrink the primary partition to leave room for Ultimate Edition
Hit the Apply button
when that's done
Create a 2 or 3Gb /swap partition at the end of the drive
Format it ext3
Leave the section for Ultimate Edition Unallocated
Hit the Apply button
When it's complete, close Partition Editor
Hit the Install Icon and follow the steps
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Following those steps will make your instillation much easier as many newer laptops get a install hang while trying to define your partitions, having a unallocated space for Ultimate Edition solves this. having the /swap partition speeds up the whole process.
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Re: new laptop??

Postby rickzoll » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:55 pm

Hi There, I have a laptop that is very similar to yours. The nvidia 7150M card works great with the proprietary drivers that are easy to select with Ultimate Edition. I suspect you have bcm4311 rev 2 wireless card as do I. When I first started using Ultimate Edition, I followed the instructions provided for this card and all worked well. Unfortunately recent updates have made the wireless stop connecting and I've not been able to get any help with this. I really like the Ultimate Edition distrabution but there doesn't seem to be much help at this point in time. I just re-installed Ultimate Edition (1.8 64 bit version), and all works well except for the wireless.
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Re: new laptop??

Postby SaddleTramp » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:45 am

rickzoll wrote:Hi There, I have a laptop that is very similar to yours. The nvidia 7150M card works great with the proprietary drivers that are easy to select with Ultimate Edition. I suspect you have bcm4311 rev 2 wireless card as do I. When I first started using Ultimate Edition, I followed the instructions provided for this card and all worked well. Unfortunately recent updates have made the wireless stop connecting and I've not been able to get any help with this. I really like the Ultimate Edition distrabution but there doesn't seem to be much help at this point in time. I just re-installed Ultimate Edition (1.8 64 bit version), and all works well except for the wireless.
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Howdy rick...sorry you haven't received much help...it seems there has been quite a few problems with some updates ... I've been trying to find out which updates those with problems received ... my first suggestion you've pretty much have done by reinstalling Ultimate Edition...sometimes after receiving a "kernal" update, any unsupported progs/apps/drivers have to be reinstalled to update the header files associated with those...I'm guessing you've already tried to setup the wireless by the same instructions you got it working with before...is that right??
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Re: new laptop??

Postby rickzoll » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:45 pm

Hi SaddleTramp,
Yes, I followed the instructions from "BCM43XX wireless driver, ultimate editions 1.7 and 1.8" and they worked earlier but not now. Any suggestions for what I could do to diagnose the problem?
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Re: new laptop??

Postby rickzoll » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:09 pm

Perhaps the output below would be helpful. Seems I'm real close but I can't seem to get to the screen that shows the available access points. I thought it used to be in the network drop-down usually in the top-right of the default screen.

rickul@SUN:~$ iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

wmaster0 no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"zlan"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0D:88:BF:57:B1
Tx-Power=27 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

rickul@SUN:~$ ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:24:c6:7b:31
inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::21b:24ff:fec6:7b31/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:471 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:151630 (148.0 KB) TX bytes:17918 (17.4 KB)
Interrupt:252 Base address:0x2000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:3500 (3.4 KB) TX bytes:3500 (3.4 KB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:1a:73:c3
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:1a:73:c3
inet addr:169.254.5.234 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1

wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-1A-73-C3-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
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Re: new laptop??

Postby SaddleTramp » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:05 pm

rickzoll wrote:Perhaps the output below would be helpful. Seems I'm real close but I can't seem to get to the screen that shows the available access points. I thought it used to be in the network drop-down usually in the top-right of the default screen.

rickul@SUN:~$ iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

wmaster0 no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"zlan"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0D:88:BF:57:B1
Tx-Power=27 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0

rickul@SUN:~$ ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:24:c6:7b:31
inet addr:192.168.0.100 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::21b:24ff:fec6:7b31/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:471 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:151630 (148.0 KB) TX bytes:17918 (17.4 KB)
Interrupt:252 Base address:0x2000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:3500 (3.4 KB) TX bytes:3500 (3.4 KB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:1a:73:c3
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wlan0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:1a:73:c3
inet addr:169.254.5.234 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1

wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-1A-73-C3-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Rick, sorry but I'm not a wireless guru like a few of them in here are (don't & never have had wireless)...but what I do think is happening to some of ya'll is due to some update that I'm trying to find out that ya'll have had come across your systems...here's some more info on what I think could be part of the problem http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libs/gvfs-backends ... trouble is, I get all the updates same as you guys (and maybe more unless you have "Proposed" & "Backports" checked in your repo's) and I've not had the slightest problem...I'm sure one of our "wireless" experts will be along to help you with the wireless prob...
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Re: new laptop??

Postby rickzoll » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:30 am

Hi SaddleTramp,
Well. I'm 10 days later and no help yet. I've actually posted in the Hardware section and the post never made it into the forum. I just think someone is on a long vacation or tied-up with their real job - I understand as I've had to travel some as well. I'm just high on where Ultimate Edition is going and I'd like to use it more but I rely on a wireless connection most of the time. I downloaded updates a couple of days ago and it included a Kernel update so I ran through the same wireless settings again and now I'm a bit closer as I get access points but after selecting one and setting security parameters, it never connects. I'll try again later tonight but I have to boot to Vista to get my wireless connection. I guess I might need to stop the updates when I get to a stable point with my wireless connection since I was working fine when I first installed Ultimate Edition 1.8.
Thanks for any suggestions you could make. rickzoll
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