Linux for Students

[himtuna]

After one an a half year of hardwork I finally conducted a workshop on Linux. IT was too hard for me to build a team and convince college authority( HOD changed this year ) and find time from busy-bookish univerisity curriculum. And you know guys, out of four laptops, three were running Ultimate 2.3.People were flattered to see compiz-fusion magic
And we even distributed 5 DVDs of UU 2.3 32bits.! as a price.
Rest of them were 60 CDs of Ubuntu 7.10 ( You can imagine how long I have been working on it)
You can find more information on workshop that we conducted at http://www.linuxtour.in

After this achievement I got some greater plans.
1) Move to Linux - A series of meetups among students(windows users) and linux experts within the college to help newbies assist in transition. As everything cannot be tought within 2 hours of workshop so we have decided to take the student interaction to next level by weekly meetings.

2) All Linux - This year we are getting new computers installed in one of our labs. To reduce cost college authority didn't ask for Windows( gonna run pirated version) and secodly PCs are not powerful enough to take full advantage of virtualization( to run windows XP) and compiz-fusion.

SO I am looking for solution. Our college authority will move to linux only when students demands are met. i.e we have softwares,compilers,IDE mentioned in our university syllabus. So I need alternates for the following( please note the version, its highly specific. We still dont follow latest GCC guidelines)

>Turbo C++ 3.0
>Java 2
>Visual Basic 6
>Visual Studio 2003

Apart from these we require office suites and couple other multimedia softwares which I are not so specific in version.


Pendrives and Viruses are one and the same thing for Windows XP. And our lab assistant just love to format and delete our programs/hardwork quite ofently.
I am looking for one more solution similiar to nover netware( i suppose) where each user logs in from a terminal and can access all his files and run his programs. i.e all student data is stored on one server and students can run their programs from any other machine. And please note that college is not gonna invest on 'awesome hardware' so I want to have all the processing done on client machine, but data remains on server.

I know I am asking for too much, but its my spirit of FOSS that has awakend a giant within me to change the world around. Please help me or tell me where to proceed.

[Admin-Amir]

Hello himtuna and welcome to the forum.

Well you did not ask allot just for the all world
let's see what you need:
1-Turbo C++ 3.0 :
The standard C++ compiler in Linux is called g++. Install the package build-essential via the the package manager and you will get this compiler as well as other essential tools.

If you also want an IDE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated ... nvironment), there are anjuta, code::blocks, geany among others to choose from. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... ironments# C.2FC.2B.2B

OR

The standard linux compiler is g++

you can install it by going to the Terminal and typing

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install build-essential

BTW C++ is an Platform-dependen Language so i guess you wont come far coding as youve done under Windows ...

2-Java 2
http://packages.ubuntu.com/ko/jaunty/ja ... e-headless

3-Visual Basic 6
Gambas is very VB6-like

mono-basic is VB8 (VB.NET)

4-there is one answer for you:

AS far as C++ in Linux I use G++ , and Anjuta ...

See G++ needs to be used from commands from Terminal.. if u want to compile while Anjuta has inbuilt like Turbo C..
Here are steps u need to do:--

For G++ Installation and usage :---

To install G++ 1'st open Terminall.. and type this

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install g++

but you should probably do (to install everything you might need in ways of developement): Type this after the above commands installation finished.

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install build-essential

That will also include gcc and g++
Now usage of G++/GCC....

simple, use editor to type in your C/C++ code. save it with the .c or .cpp extension.

Then exit form the editor, in terminal type :

cc filename.c

This will create the a.out file.

now type ./a.out

to get the output

to specify a custom name, u need :

Code: Select all

cc -o outputfilename sourcefile.c

About Anjuta :

To install type thiis in Terminal

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get install anjuta

you will have have a button to press to compile your code.

and Link for the pro Forum:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/community/as ... -stud.aspx

[himtuna]

Thanks for detailed reply.
I am gonna test mono and gambas and let you know the results.

and what to do with that networking stuff?

[Admin-Amir]

himtuna

First about Multimedia=you can use VLC.
about Network?what about it?
from the way I see it we can solve your problems with the router/hub
by static ip station / or in the best way to configure the server to DHCP!
and if the station get DHCP you will have no problems with network if we talking on Ultimate Edition

[himtuna]

Actually I am total noob with networking.
If someone says use aptana or eclipse I can understand.

But if you say use DHCP and other blah blah, it goes above my head.
There is networking already done in four of our labs. We use windows XP and connect to linux server and run our programs.
But how do I do this.
Connect a linux to main linux server.
Put all data at the main server
Execute programs using local machine.
...hmm. may be networked drive or something seems feasible.

In simple words I want students can login at any system and are able to access their data/programs. Second we dont have powerful server to handle something like novel netware.
So how must I go about it?

[Admin-Amir]

himtuna

I like the blah blahpart
so now it is time to learn SAMBA!
samba is your solution to your Question with the students can login at any system/files...
Connect a linux to main linux server.it is all about Education my friend.
Take your time,and see how to do it.
samba site:
http://us3.samba.org/samba/

[himtuna]

Thanks for liking blah blah

As I told you new system have arrived they are about 30 in number. And its my duty to install linux on them So I've been given a great deal of responsibility. Here are couple of more problems.

1) We need to dual boot windowsXP and UU 2.3 32bit. But the problem is that lab assistant keep on formatting the windowsXP due to viruses.
So is there any way our UU can remain intact even if we reinstall windows?

2)I tried creating a separate partition for /boot but after it didn't recognize windows XP! The partition was there but windows couldn't be booted.

3) Whats the several login information I see like DHCP, login via this and that at the UU login page?

4) System are having core 2 duo( dont know which version, but the cheapest I suppose) with 2 Gb ram, 320 GB HDD.
So what shall I use UU 32 bit or 64 Bit?

5) These lab computer are not connected to internet, so how do I update them.
Is there any service pack available?

Thanks a lot for you help.

[Admin-Amir]

Dear himtuna.

Tell you what,
There is one user by the name of jai on our site from your country.
very good friend of may so lets give him big thanks from you

That is ALL about Education!
Free from the U.E Team/Israel-INDIA with allot of Love to your PPL.

O.K. if you install windows 32 BIT-you install U.E 32 BIT.

1- download the Parted Magic:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7a5b ... f6e8ebb871

2- download the iso of clonezilla:
http://clonezilla.org/download/sourceforge/

HOW TO GET YOUR JOB DONE.

The two discs are the tools you need + an empty hard drive the same size.
You need to connect one computer to the Internet for the work.
This computer will built for you then all the other computers.
You said you need xp system and ultimate system on one drive.
no problem at all.

First before the process The empty spare drive for is for the images(Ghost).

Then after you understand why another drive, we can start.

1-With patred magic you create partitions for the systems.
2 partition of FAT32,and one unformated partition like in the screen shot that you see hear:
2x100 FAT32=200G the rest live unformated:





After creating a 100 GB drive size,
Again the same action with the preparation of another drive of 100 GB.

Once you've created 2 drives of 100 GB.
right mouse Click on the first drive format to FAT32.
after you done with the first,again the same with the other one.
Leave what remains from the drive not formated-(for U.E).

2-Now you can quit the program, restart your computer.

3-Insert the xp system disc and start installing the system,

Format the drives installation process to NTFS.


Once the installation update your system upgrade it with all the updates and software that work with the system.
Also install anti-virus - I suggest the excellent Avast Antivirus free.

And install all the software that students need to learn and work with them.


configure all the software corect.
Update all software including your antivirus.


4-Once the windows system is ready and everything is fine,
Defragment your hard disk.

2-3 times that the drive will be stitched together properly.

Now you have completed the first stage of preparation.


5-Now you restart the computer.

6-Change the BIOS to boot from CD / DVD save changes in the BIOS.
Insert the disc OF the ultimate system,
Start the installation process of the ultimate system.
While directing step installation process, you have an advanced stage.
Directed the installation to establish the format THE UNFORMATED DISC.
and install Grab to the MBR.
That is how you get et doual boot.

After you finish all the steps I wrote to you here.

I write you these parts of the process to be performed.

BTW- hope today I will find the time to FIX for you APTonCD Disc for help
installing all the packages you need for the U.E 2.3

APTonCD-U.E -2.3/all packages that you need

size=551.8 MB (578557952 bytes)EN.

To download the file use the link below:
http://fileupload.filetac.com/file/be10 ... 9385b7dd09



END OF PART ONE.

[himtuna]

Thanks for a lot for your help!
From behalf of my college I wish UU Team a bright future! UU rocks

>I really can't take HDD out of the computer to clone them. These are new computers so authority won't even allow screw-driver in the lab.
>Yupp! I am going with 32 bit UU.
>Once again I would like to thank "U.E Team/Israel-INDIA" for your providing us with these softwares.
>The only solution I see to prevent UU from loosing is to hide its partition via parted manager and then install/reinstall windows XP.( I hope lab assistant understands this process)

Can you please let me know whats with the "APTonCD-U.E -2.3/all packages that you need"

UU Team Rocks!

[Admin-Amir]

himtuna,

First thing you very welcome here bro

Can you please let me know whats with the "APTonCD-U.E -2.3/all packages that you need"

well you have said that you do not have network in the class right?
so this Disc that I have made for you/your class contain :
all plug in.
virtualbox.
U.E-Guide (not complete yet)

all support for the system,Java,flash player,codacs,open office 3.1...
all Audio Video plug in.
Language support,compression,converting,ISO support mount,usb,webcam...
so if you want your system to be FIX with all support for working,
I call the Disc-All That you Wants

you better grub the Disc fast as you can!
That will cover the U.E 2.3 fully supported.

So have fun out there and you are very very welcome my friend.
From me and from the U.E Team support.