13.04 wants to dump everything for a couple updates?

[BBOSAK2143]

Now this one has me baffled to the moon! I am no pro putting these Ubuntu's together by no means, but this one was running pretty good up to a few days ago. All of a sudden gedit is shutting down and synaptic does the same when it feels like it! Anyway to my surprise today I look at updates(as I do every couple days!) and WHAMMO it wants to give 446 megs of downloads and in return, totally devastate the entire system! Wants to dump all desktops besides KDE ,Razor, Ubuntu and a pretty decent portion of all my programs just to fix an issue between Gnome Package management and Python Package management! If anyone is going through anything similar or has an idea to fix this deal, would be grateful for the advice. I mean to me all is running well besides those 2 programs! I can not see destroying the entire system just for 2 programs, is just not a valid path for me to choose!!!! I enjoy all the other desktops, but yes currently again messing with Gnome Fallback. Been working on some GTK Themes! So far have a nice brown one up and running. Plan to do some more soon as time permits. Here is a pic of the theme and will probably upload to Gnome org soon.

[ryanvade]

yeah, I just updated my install. 159 updates... since yesterday. I am afraid to reboot...

[BBOSAK2143]

This is a bit worse as it wants to give me 464 megs and take away over a gig or programs and desktops!!!! Am tipped. If I would have seen this one coming probably would have stuck with the 12.10 I had. Sure it was not perfect, but this stuff here is very scary!!!! Still though as I say runs good minus gedit and synaptic. Is not like those 2 programs constantly mess up, just here and there!!!! I mean what is going to be uninstalled is what I really enjoy and use everyday!!! That is the hardest part!!! Is almost as if Ubuntu team knows exactly what I use and just says "Well you made a few mistakes putting it together, now you get to pay!" For anyone out there reading this if you are going to assemble one of these as I did, make sure not to get any gnome package management! Why????? This is the whole downfall of my OS. Thought would be decent to have package management for gnome software and another for the rest! Nope, Gnome package management as far as I can see is only a trainwreck and avoid at all costs!!!!!

[ryanvade]

Your using the Gnome Backports ppa right? For Gnome 3.8?

[Xanayoshi]

You shouldn't install with synaptic. But it is certainly a better idea than using Ubuntu Software Center..but still..ideally..

Open a terminal, and run synaptic without privileges...think of it as a guide..

So if you are using terminator, you can start synaptic by typing synaptic(no root, no sudo) and then split the terminator and have the other side go root...

In this manner you can check what you are doing but you are not depending so much on what synaptic may or may not do.

Gedit...ehhhhhh

Gedit sucks

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sudo apt-get install geany

However, if synaptic is not working you probably have problems.

As far as this super large upgrade....

Not only Gnome, but backports...are you backported?

This is a dilemma with backports, if you want to install a backport to get a later version, you may want to comment that backport out, otherwise, every time you apt-get upgrade, boooooooom!!!!

True you are getting programs removed, but most are replaced..if you have KDE backport, that would easily explain the 500mb. Big roll of the dice with this, especially if you have multiple DE, and last I checked most versions of Razor are dependant on the KDE suite..KDE on it's own seems to get horribly lost in all this, Gnome backports are a straight disaster.

[BBOSAK2143]

Does not look like I have any backports for 3.8. Maybe is a problem, will check soon. Just have never went through an extreme like this! As said was a huge mistake to take the two package managers as seems all they do is battle and not work!!!! Xan yes do have Geany installed just got used to Gedit. I use Geany here and there and it works very well! I am not lying when I say have a few things if I go to update, there goes the entire system! I know I also figured as the mistake I made even though it sounds trivial, was quite huge and now as they say has come to bite me in the behind! Originally stated was not a wise move to build this OS with my Laptop, just was not strong enough to handle the complications!!!! I do not see any implications that if I installed the updates, that there would be a chance of all the removed programs being re-installed. I would simply be left with about 20/100 programs, 3/7 desktops and even loose my favorite new icons!!!! So its either the hell with the 17 updates and suffer gedit and synaptic working as it wants to or simply watch the whole system be destroyed! A funny thing about all this is every time I have ever had any problem with a Ubuntu, Google Earth is the first program that wants to split!!!! KDE and Razor would be of the 3 desktops remaining! Now even if by chance re-installation of all the programs and desktops would happen, I would be downloading an entire day!!!! Can not afford that kind of bill! Made most of this OS at school. Graduated so really do not have business over there again to do the same! So either I fix it or it croaks! Just wish I knew how to take care of this. Will see what comes up as have a few ideas from the both of you. Thanks and will get back to you and let you know what happens! Also got another theme done. Call this one bb-Da Blue-theme. Have a few more in the works. Gnome 3.8 needs some decent gtk's and hoping to get some up there soon!!!

[pam]

Here's the bottom line figured some will laugh on this one!!!! This is word for word what the upgrade will do. Is a flippin joke to the max as what would be left????

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root@bob-asus:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword abiword-plugin-grammar abiword-plugin-mathview accerciser
  account-plugin-aim account-plugin-facebook account-plugin-flickr
  account-plugin-generic-oauth account-plugin-google account-plugin-jabber
  account-plugin-salut account-plugin-twitter account-plugin-windows-live
  account-plugin-yahoo acidrip activity-log-manager-control-center alacarte
  appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 apport-gtk apt-watch-backend apt-watch-gnome apturl
  arista audacious audacious-plugins autokey-gtk avidemux avidemux-plugins-gtk
  bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu baobab bleachbit bluefish
  bluefish-plugins bombono-dvd boot-repair boot-sav boot-sav-extra brasero
  brasero-cdrkit browser-plugin-gnash browser-plugin-vlc bum camorama caribou
  caribou-antler cheese chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
  chromium-codecs-ffmpeg clamtk classicmenu-indicator clearlooks-phenix-theme
  compiz compiz-dev compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-extra
  compiz-plugins-main compiz-plugins-main-dev compizconfig-backend-gconf
  compizconfig-settings-manager dconf-tools default-jre deja-dup
  deja-dup-backend-gvfs deja-dup-backend-ubuntuone desktop-base devhelp dvd95
  dvdisaster dvdrip empathy eog epiphany-browser epson-inkjet-printer-201203w
  epson-inkjet-printer-escpr evince evolution evolution-data-server
  evolution-plugins exo-utils exo-utils-dbg file-roller filezilla firefox
  firefox-globalmenu firefox-gnome-support firmware-tools firmware-tools-gui
  five-or-more flashplugin-installer foomatic-gui friends friends-dispatcher
  friends-facebook friends-twitter fusion-icon galculator gambas3
  gambas3-gb-chart gambas3-gb-db gambas3-gb-db-form gambas3-gb-db-mysql
  gambas3-gb-db-odbc gambas3-gb-db-postgresql gambas3-gb-db-sqlite3
  gambas3-gb-desktop gambas3-gb-form gambas3-gb-form-dialog
  gambas3-gb-form-mdi gambas3-gb-form-stock gambas3-gb-gtk gambas3-gb-gui
  gambas3-gb-report gambas3-ide gconf-cleaner gconf-editor gcr gcr-dbgsym
  gcstar gdebi gdm gdm-dbgsym geany geany-plugin-addons geany-plugins-common
  gedit gedit-dev gedit-plugins gimp gir1.2-anjuta-3.0
  gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1 gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-cheese-3.0
  gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-clutter-gst-2.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0
  gir1.2-cryptui-0.0 gir1.2-ebook-1.2 gir1.2-ebookcontacts-1.2
  gir1.2-edataserver-1.2 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gir1.2-gdata-0.0
  gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 gir1.2-goa-1.0
  gir1.2-gtk-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0 gir1.2-gtksource-3.0
  gir1.2-gucharmap-2.90 gir1.2-gweather-3.0 gir1.2-keybinder-3.0
  gir1.2-nautilus-3.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 gir1.2-peas-1.0
  gir1.2-rb-3.0 gir1.2-timezonemap-1.0 gir1.2-totem-1.0 gir1.2-vte-2.90
  gir1.2-webkit-3.0 gir1.2-wnck-3.0 gir1.2-zpj-0.0 gisomount gkbd-capplet gksu
  glade glade-gnome glade-gtk2 glade-xfce glade2script gnash
  gnome-activity-journal gnome-applets gnome-bluetooth gnome-boxes
  gnome-brave-icon-theme gnome-calculator gnome-color-chooser
  gnome-color-manager gnome-colors gnome-colors-common gnome-commander
  gnome-contacts gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-signon
  gnome-control-center-unity gnome-dictionary gnome-disk-utility
  gnome-documents gnome-dust-icon-theme gnome-font-viewer gnome-gmail
  gnome-human-icon-theme gnome-humility-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme
  gnome-icon-theme-extras gnome-icon-theme-full gnome-icon-theme-gartoon
  gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
  gnome-illustrious-icon-theme gnome-keyring gnome-media gnome-media-player
  gnome-mplayer gnome-nettool gnome-noble-icon-theme gnome-online-accounts
  gnome-orca gnome-packagekit gnome-packagekit-tools gnome-panel
  gnome-panel-dbg gnome-power-manager gnome-screensaver gnome-screenshot
  gnome-search-tool gnome-session gnome-session-bin gnome-session-canberra
  gnome-session-fallback gnome-settings-daemon gnome-software-manager
  gnome-sushi gnome-system-log gnome-system-log-dbgsym gnome-system-monitor
  gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-standard
  gnome-tweak-tool gnome-update-viewer gnome-user-guide gnome-user-share
  gnome-weather gnome-wine-icon-theme gnome-wise-icon-theme gnomecatalog
  google-earth-stable gparted gpicview graphviz grilo-plugins-0.2
  grub-customizer gshare gshutdown gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-x
  gstreamer0.10-x:i386 gstreamer1.0-clutter gstreamer1.0-x gtg gtk-3-examples
  gtk2-engines gtk2-engines:i386 gtk2-engines-murrine
  gtk2-engines-murrine:i386 gtk2-engines-oxygen:i386 gtk2-engines-pixbuf
  gtk2-engines-pixbuf:i386 gtk2-engines-xfce gtk2-ex-formfactory-perl
  gtk3-engines-unico gtk3-engines-xfce gtkorphan gucharmap gufw gui-apt-key
  gvfs-backends gxine hamster-applet hamster-indicator hud humanity-icon-theme
  ia32-libs ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 iagno ibus ibus-gtk ibus-gtk:i386
  ibus-gtk3 ibus-pinyin ibus-table indicator-applet indicator-applet-appmenu
  indicator-applet-complete indicator-applet-session indicator-application
  indicator-application-gtk2 indicator-appmenu indicator-bluetooth
  indicator-datetime indicator-messages indicator-power indicator-printers
  indicator-session indicator-sound indicator-sync inkscape isomaster
  javahelp2 k3d kazam kmplayer landscape-client-ui-install
  language-selector-gnome leafpad libabiword-2.9 libaccount-plugin-1.0-0
  libanjuta-3-0 libappindicator0.1-cil libappindicator1 libappindicator3-1
  libatk-wrapper-java-jni libaudcore1 libavahi-ui-gtk3-0 libbamf3-1
  libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-dev libbrasero-media3-1 libcanberra-gtk-module
  libcanberra-gtk-module:i386 libcanberra-gtk0 libcanberra-gtk0:i386
  libcanberra-gtk3-0 libcanberra-gtk3-dev libcanberra-gtk3-module
  libcaribou-gtk-module libcaribou-gtk3-module libcaribou0 libcheese-dev
  libcheese-gtk-dev libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 libclutter-1.0-0
  libclutter-1.0-dev libclutter-gst-2.0-0 libclutter-gst-2.0-dev
  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-dev libcogl-pango-dev
  libcogl-pango12 libcolord-gtk1 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4 libdbusmenu-gtk4
  libdevhelp-3-1 libdevhelp-3-2 libebackend-1.2-5 libebackend-1.2-6
  libebook-1.2-14 libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libecal-1.2-15 libedata-book-1.2-15
  libedata-book-1.2-17 libedata-cal-1.2-18 libedata-cal-1.2-20
  libedataserver-1.2-17 libedataserverui-3.0-4 libevdocument3-4 libevolution
  libevview3-3 libexo-1-0 libexo-1-0-dbg libfm-gtk-bin libfm-gtk3
  libfolks-eds25 libfriends0 libgail-3-0 libgail-3-dev libgail-common
  libgail-common:i386 libgail-dev libgail18 libgail18:i386 libgcr-3-1
  libgdata13 libgdict-1.0-6 libgdl-3-5 libgegl-0.2-0 libgimp2.0 libgksu2-0
  libglade2-0 libglade2-dev libglade2.0-cil libglademm-2.4-1c2a
  libgladeui-1-11 libgladeui-2-4 libgmtk1 libgnome-bluetooth11
  libgnome-control-center1 libgnome-desktop-3-4 libgnome-desktop-3-7
  libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnome2-canvas-perl libgnome2-perl
  libgnome2-wnck-perl libgnome2.24-cil libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-dev
  libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-1c2a libgnomekbd8 libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-dev
  libgoa-1.0-0 libgoo-canvas-perl libgoocanvas3 libgrip0 libgtk-3-0
  libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-dev libgtk-sharp-beans-cil libgtk-vnc-2.0-0
  libgtk2-appindicator-perl libgtk2-ex-formfactory-perl libgtk2-gladexml-perl
  libgtk2-imageview-perl libgtk2-perl libgtk2-spell-perl libgtk2-unique-perl
  libgtk2.0-0:i386 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-cil libgtk2.0-dev libgtkglext1
  libgtkhtml-4.0-0 libgtkhtml-4.0-common libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0
  libgtkimageview0 libgtkmathview0c2a libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libgtkmm-3.0-1
  libgtksourceview-3.0-0 libgtksourceview-3.0-1 libgtksourceview-3.0-dev
  libgtksourceview2.0-0 libgtkspell0 libgucharmap-2-90-7 libgvc5
  libgweather-3-1 libgweather-3-3 libharfbuzz-dev libharfbuzz0
  libharfbuzz0:i386 libido3-0.1-0 libindicator3-7 libindicator7
  libkeybinder-3.0-0 libkeybinder0 libmagickcore5-extra libmetacity-private0a
  libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil libmutter0b libnautilus-extension1a
  libnb-platform13-java libnemo-extension1 libnm-gtk0 libnotify0.4-cil
  libnux-4.0-0 libobrender27 libogmrip1 libpanel-applet-4-0 libpango-perl
  libpango1.0-0:i386 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386
  libpangoft2-1.0-0:i386 libpangomm-1.4-1 libpangoxft-1.0-0:i386 libpeas-1.0-0
  libpeas-dev libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome
  libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-gtk3 libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress
  libreoffice-kde libreoffice-math libreoffice-nlpsolver libreoffice-ogltrans
  libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-presentation-minimizer
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-writer librhythmbox-core6
  librhythmbox-core7 libripoff0 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-2:i386 librsvg2-common
  librsvg2-common:i386 libsexy2 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-4 libsyncdaemon-1.0-1
  libthunar-vfs-1-2 libthunar-vfs-1-2-dbg libthunarx-2-0 libtimezonemap1
  libtotem0 libufe-xidgetter0 libunique-1.0-0 libunity-core-6.0-5
  libunity-misc4 libunity-webapps0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte9 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
  libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwnck-3-0 libwnck22 libwxgtk2.8-0 libxfce4ui-1-0
  libxfce4ui-1-dbg libxfce4ui-1-dev libxfce4ui-utils libxfcegui4-4
  libxfcegui4-4-dbg libyelp0 libzapojit-0.0-0 light-themes
  lightdm-remote-session-freerdp lightsoff lsb lsb-desktop lxappearance
  lxappearance-dbg lxappearance-obconf lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxdm lxinput
  lxinput-dbg lxlauncher lxlauncher-dbg lxmusic lxmusic-dbg lxpanel
  lxpanel-dbg lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin lxpolkit lxrandr lxrandr-dbg
  lxsession lxsession-dbg lxsession-edit lxshortcut lxshortcut-dbg lxtask
  lxtask-dbg lxterminal lxterminal-dbg mame mcp-account-manager-uoa
  mdbtools-gmdb mess mess-desktop-entries metacity mjpegtools-gtk mousepad
  mousetweaks mp3splt-gtk mutter nautilus nautilus-sendto
  nautilus-sendto-empathy nautilus-share nemo nemo-fileroller
  network-manager-gnome network-manager-pptp-gnome notification-daemon
  notify-osd ntfs-config obconf ogmrip ogmrip-ac3 ogmrip-dirac ogmrip-mpeg
  ogmrip-oggz ogmrip-profiles ogmrip-video-copy onboard oneconf openbox
  openbox-themes openjdk-7-jdk openjdk-7-jre orage os-uninstaller
  overlay-scrollbar overlay-scrollbar-gtk2 overlay-scrollbar-gtk3 parole
  parole-dev passepartout pcmanfm pdfcube phatch phatch-cli pinentry-gtk2
  pitivi plymouth-label plymouth-theme-script plymouth-theme-stargate
  plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo plymouth-x11 policykit-1-gnome pycode-browser
  pype python-appindicator python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python-glade2
  python-gmenu python-gnome2 python-gnomekeyring python-gtk2 python-gtk2-dev
  python-gtk2-doc python-gtksourceview2 python-ibus python-keybinder
  python-liblarch python-notify python-pyatspi python-pyatspi2
  python-pygoocanvas python-ubuntu-sso-client python-ubuntuone-control-panel
  python-uno python-vte python-webkit python-wnck python-wxgtk2.8
  python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python3-pyatspi python3-virtkey qemu-launcher
  quadrapassel remmina remmina-plugin-rdp remmina-plugin-vnc rhythmbox
  rhythmbox-mozilla rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder rhythmbox-plugin-magnatune
  rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist rhythmbox-plugins rhythmbox-ubuntuone ripoff
  ristretto routeplanner-gnome rygel-preferences scratch
  screen-resolution-extra seahorse sessioninstaller shiki-colors-xfwm-theme
  shotwell shutter simple-scan software-center software-properties-gtk
  sound-juicer soundconverter squeak-plugins-scratch squeeze ssh-askpass-gnome
  super-boot-manager swell-foop synaptic sysinfo sysprof
  system-config-printer-gnome tali telepathy-indicator terminator thunar
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-dbg thunar-media-tags-plugin thunar-vcs-plugin
  thunar-volman thunderbird thunderbird-globalmenu thunderbird-gnome-support
  tilem tomboy totem totem-plugins tracker-gui transmission-gtk ubuntu-artwork
  ubuntu-builder ubuntu-docs ubuntu-mono ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk
  ubuntu-sso-client ubuntu-sso-client-qt ubuntuone-client
  ubuntuone-client-gnome ubuntuone-client-proxy ubuntuone-control-panel
  ubuntuone-control-panel-qt unity unity-asset-pool unity-greeter
  unity-lens-friends unity-lens-photos unity-scope-gdrive
  unity-scope-musicstores unity-services unity-tweak-tool
  unity-webapps-service unoconv update-manager update-notifier usb-creator-gtk
  vinagre vino visualvm vlc-plugin-notify webaccounts-extension-common
  winefish wireshark x2 xarchiver xbmc xchat-gnome xchat-gnome-indicator
  xdg-user-dirs-gtk xdiagnose xdvdshrink xfburn xfce4 xfce4-appfinder
  xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-datetime-plugin xfce4-dbg xfce4-dict
  xfce4-diskperf-plugin xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-genmon-plugin xfce4-goodies
  xfce4-indicator-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin
  xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-notifyd
  xfce4-panel xfce4-panel-dbg xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-power-manager
  xfce4-power-manager-plugins xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-screenshooter
  xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-session-dbg xfce4-settings
  xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-taskmanager
  xfce4-terminal xfce4-terminal-dbg xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-verve-plugin
  xfce4-volumed xfce4-wavelan-plugin xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-wmdock-plugin
  xfce4-xkb-plugin xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-dbg xfprint4 xfwm4 xfwm4-dbg
  xfwm4-themes xplanet xscreensaver xul-ext-webaccounts xvid4conf yelp zapping
  zeitgeist zeitgeist-datahub zenity
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gcj-4.7-base gcj-4.7-jre gcj-4.7-jre-headless gcj-4.7-jre-lib gcj-jre
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  libgcj13 libgcj13-awt libgraphite2-3 libharfbuzz0a openjdk-6-jre-headless
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The following packages will be upgraded:
  libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libpango-1.0-0
  libpango-1.0-0:i386 libpango1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0
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[BBOSAK2143]

So just in case some are reading and wondering about this, I have even used apt-get build-dep to fix synaptic and gedit. Still all attempts to get 17 upgrades which to me seem on the bogus side fail! It now raises another question I have. Is it possible for a virus to get into package management and claim you need to destroy your OS??? I mean this is the strangest occurrence I have ever had on any Ubuntu!!!! At present am running clam-tk to check for viruses. Am sorry as I can not believe these packages listed are even legitimate if dependencies can not be built for them. Yes I tried that, and I get BS! So I am really starting to believe this is some sort of SHAM! I have never seen anything like this and am totally curious if anyone here has????? I mean take a look at the post above and read thru real careful. That is more than half my OS!!!

[ryanvade]

To me, it seems like you have issues with entire package groups being listed as "not needed" by apt-get.

[BBOSAK2143]

Do not know but what is weird is it all runs pretty good and fairly fast! Until yesterday I never had a problem getting updates! All of a sudden these 17 updates come in and it just wants to take the entire OS apart! To me makes no sense at all. I am no pro at this as is only the 2nd successful(or I thought?) system I put together out of 5 tries! No viruses, just the usual wasted Chrome pages! Get a few of those a week!!! Web page building is not an easy task and do not care who you are is possible to mess things up on them when building! I should have just assembled something less complicated! Am reaching for the stars when I just do not possess enough knowledge to do so! As I said what is a pain is almost everything listed is what I use everyday!!!! Without most of that stuff is not worth nothing to me. To go ahead and reassemble is not really an option as is hefty downloading and Verizon Wireless bill is just too much to handle!!! Will keep trying to fix, just has to be a dependency or something. Any clues what to do is greatly appreciated!!! Just want to keep running this as like I said minus this crap runs real good!