live dvd difference to normal install?

[Cell]

Look at my last post.I edited it.


The cards you tested with (ati) run on the open source driver.If you would have used an ATI HD card I bet you would be booting into an black screen.This is because when you update to 9.10 it trys to use the xorg.conf file you had before.If you deleete the xorg.config file,and roll back to the mesa driver before you update you should be able to log in,because 9.10 will write an xorg,conf file for you...It doesn't overwrite the one you had.Hence the conflict it will have.

Iv'e even seen cases where This would happen to nvidia too,or any graphics...

Also OpenOffice will error if you upgrade...it wont load up the new language packages,or not all of them.
I suspect this is firefox's problem too...not overwriting the configuration.
Madwifi will not work also...It wont compile the new driver.It will try to use the driver on the new kernel.Which won't work.


Your screen shots tell me your using the open source driver...if in fact your using those drivers listed in synaptics.I haven't got around to those drivers yet...I'm still figuring out the new way Karmic deals with the xorg.conf file.Ill load em up here in a few days,and start hacking up the xorg.conf file,but I don't think it will be any better than the mesa driver.

Do you have an xorg.conf file in the x11 folder?I'm a betting man,and I bet you don't...I could be wrong tho.
If you did a clean install I'm sure you would not have one(I don't) I'm want to see if you upgrade if you still have one.

[Admin-Amir]

No I don't cell!
this file is gone from the x11 folder.

but just one sec here cell,That don't say match way?

Just type in

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sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

and add your modifications.

A existing

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xorg.conf-file

will never be touched or deleted!

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[Cell]

Told ya

I should have bet you something....lol.

[Admin-Amir]

For a long time, editing xorg.conf was necessary for advanced input devices and multiple monitor output to work correctly. This was regarded to be a major usability obstacle. In modern systems this is seldom necessary, thanks to input hotplugging and the XRandR extension integrated into new X.org releases. It is still needed for devices from some manufacturers, notably NVIDIA and Wacom, whose drivers fail to provide support for those technologies.

You should investigate if you can use the RandR extension to change the display characteristics. xrandr provides the command-line interface to this extension. From the man page:

Xrandr is used to set the size, orientation and/or reflection of the
outputs for a screen. It can also set the screen size.

If invoked without any option, it will dump the state of the outputs,
showing the existing modes for each of them, with a ’+’ after the pre‐
ferred mode and a ’*’ after the current mode.

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The whole idea with the new xorg,with karmic,and any version after karmic is that it will automatically configure xorg.conf for you.And Ubuntu thinks you should stay out of it.

If I run that command I have nothing in my file...its just blank.If I load up the radeon driver I bet Ill have what you have...just one or two lines,saying I'm using a configured video devise.

RandR basically does the same thing as the screen shot...very generic.I think if you wanted duel screens tho you have to use xrander<not sure of the spelling> with ATI.

Like I said I'm still trying to figure out if one can still edit that file...and make it stick.But really it just might be a waste of time.Why do it if you don't have to?Nix is changing,and its for the good.3 months ago I would have to hack my graphics driver just to watch tv,let alone just to play a game.Now for the first time I didn't have to do it.

[Admin-Amir]

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sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx

from other post on the Ubuntu site

I've got the same card as you (well, same chipset...) and I also had to install the proprietary drivers manually but that was due to a (since then fixed) GDM bug.

Maybe you're encountering another bug. When your system boots up, try to switch to tty7 by pressing "ctrl+alt+F7" when the screen goes blank.

[Cell]

from other post on the Ubuntu site

I've got the same card as you (well, same chipset...) and I also had to install the proprietary drivers manually but that was due to a (since then fixed) GDM bug.

Maybe you're encountering another bug. When your system boots up, try to switch to tty7 by pressing "ctrl+alt+F7" when the screen goes blank.

You lost me there...What card is that person talking about?and what version of ubuntu?

[Admin-Amir]

ATI cell.

but anyway that looks like this issue for us is SOLVED for the 9.10!
there is no file to EDIT.

[Cell]

Lol ye...kinda.

I still can't use crossfire,and the most graphic intense games won't play(that's why I use debian by the way).Those devs working on the open source drivers are sure working hard to please everyone tho.I think the next LTS is going to really kick ass...it better win7 is looking good too.


but take head to the updating issues that others might have(the one I mentioned above) Trust me there's going to be more to...but well figure em out.


its been fun man.Good night.

[Admin-Amir]

That's what Blackwolf was so happy about yesterday with the MS 7
Now he has some time to play