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No Compiz

PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:59 pm
by Acaster
Compiz doesn't run on this installation of 3.8 although it's fine on others. compiz --replace is set in start up applications and when I enter it into a terminal this happens

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Acaster@Asterisk:~$ compiz --replace
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: core
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: core
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: ccp
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: ccp
compizconfig - Info: Backend     : ini
compizconfig - Info: Integration : true
compizconfig - Info: Profile     : unity
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: composite
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: composite
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: opengl
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: opengl
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: compiztoolbox
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: compiztoolbox
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: decor
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: decor
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: regex
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: regex
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: place
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: place
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: vpswitch
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: vpswitch
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: grid
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: grid
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: move
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: move
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: gnomecompat
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: gnomecompat
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: session
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: session
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: copytex
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: copytex
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: animation
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: animation
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: mousepoll
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: mousepoll
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: resize
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: resize
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: snap
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: snap
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: imgpng
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: imgpng
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: workarounds
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: workarounds
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: wall
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: wall
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: expo
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: expo
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: fade
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: fade
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: ezoom
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: ezoom
compiz (core) - Info: Loading plugin: scale
compiz (core) - Info: Starting plugin: scale


and then the terminal hangs. Can anyone tell me what's happening here ?

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:27 am
by pam
Which desktop environment are you using. Compiz as a standalone is almost dead. Adding compiz is externalized in Ultimate Edition by Theemahn.
Make sure you have functional graphics drivers(AMD/Nvidia). IF you are using Intel, no need to worry.

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:04 pm
by BBOSAK2143
Is weird because am not seeing any failure in that list. Just curious if you have ever tried to start compiz naturally, for instance not having the compiz --replace issued command to start off with??? Just am wondering as usually every time I have seen a failure with compiz was because something was not able to be composited(drawn) properly. Making my massive mistakes on themes at times, has produced errors of such! Also have seen others that indicated something did not install properly! Just am curious as because somewhere along the line, to me is almost sounding as if there is some double issued command which will trip the terminal in many instances! I am quite guilty of that also!!!

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:49 am
by Acaster
pam wrote:Which desktop environment are you using. Compiz as a standalone is almost dead. Adding compiz is externalized in Ultimate Edition by Theemahn.
Make sure you have functional graphics drivers(AMD/Nvidia). IF you are using Intel, no need to worry.


Please see my signature for machine specs. I used Mate on 3.8 and it's ok on my AMD PC but not any of the intels. Thing is compiz is ok on all the operating systems in my signature except this one.

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:15 am
by pam
Graphics card is not listed and your mainboard does not have any IGP....
Whichever card you are using make sure you download the correct drivers.
For AMD there is an alternative method to install drivers.

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:51 am
by Acaster
pam wrote:Graphics card is not listed and your mainboard does not have any IGP....
Whichever card you are using make sure you download the correct drivers.
For AMD there is an alternative method to install drivers.



It's a Radeon HD 5450 diamond edition and I got the drivers from the amd site.

Used to fix this problem by changing the window manager in the drop down menu but that hasn't appeared in this version. How can I find out / change the window manager without it?

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:25 pm
by pam
Assuming you are using the mate desktop...
From the looks of it you dont seem to be having the fusion-icon(the blue compiz icon) up top in the panel.
You could type: ALT+F2 and type: fusion-icon

If nothing comes up you could install it....
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sudo apt-get install fusion-icon


If you are still unable to change to compiz....then you are pretty much out of luck. :|

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:19 pm
by billhedrick
I loved Compiz, note the past tense. I think from what I can tell, it's kinda dead in the newer Ubuntus. Hopefully someone will get screen effects woirking in 13.10 and beyound

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:23 pm
by Acaster
pam wrote:Assuming you are using the mate desktop...
From the looks of it you dont seem to be having the fusion-icon(the blue compiz icon) up top in the panel.
You could type: ALT+F2 and type: fusion-icon

If nothing comes up you could install it....
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sudo apt-get install fusion-icon


If you are still unable to change to compiz....then you are pretty much out of luck. :|


ALT+F2 doesn't do anything here but I tried fusion-icon in a terminal and got 'command not found' and synaptic said it wasn't installed so I followed your instructions and now I get this:

acaster@HP:~$ fusion-icon
* Detected Session: mate
* Searching for installed applications...
Segmentation fault
acaster@HP:~$

Is this it? Is this the end of compiz? I know I live in an isolated corner of the globe where the rest of it can pass me by and it isn't something I lose sleep over either but no more compiz? It didn't do much but it was sure good to have around.

Change just ain't what it used to be.

Re: No Compiz

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:40 am
by pam
Then that's it. I'll repeat, Compiz as a standalone is dead. Nonetheless the code is being used natively on E17, cinnamon, kde and gnome-shell.
All the above DE have variations in the effects they use compared to compiz.
Unless TheeMahn has the time or plans to somehow mesh in Compiz at a deeper level in Ultimate Edition, compiz may be unusable.

KDE(kwin) by far has all the effects of compiz....wobbly windows, desktop cube etc etc.

Mate has a compositor that does nothing more than add shadows to windows.

A lightweight highly configurable and powerful compositor is --- compton.
Compton is a derivative of xcompmgr.

Compton allow for transparency of windows, colored shadows to windows, fading of windows and minimize effects.

You will need to put off the default mate compositor if you want to use compton on mate/xfce.

Once you install compton....I can give you the configuration file....that's if you want to use it.