Kernel 3.7 just not ready or compiled right!

[BBOSAK2143]

Well after following all kinds of directions am left with a kernel that is a major malfunction! Whoever is compiling them is starting to make a lame compiler like me look good!!!! See I can assemble things but unfortunately most times are not going in the right place! This 3.7 no matter which way you get it messes up with the fglrx. Presently am trying a last ditch effort! Someone claims to have created a functional patch? Is it true? Or will it be a bunch of commands when entered gives up with the terminal flashing on screen one second then disappearing, well let's see! Just came in! Nope couldn't be that easy!!!!! Another Linux leg-bone connected to the thigh bone, thigh bone connected to the brain bone! Yep am a real bonehead for thinking these kernels actually work!!! Dare someone to prove me wrong that 3.7 can actually compile. Have been at it for 2 days now and is not the case! Is cashed destroyed wasted no use of full graphics!!!! Why? As I said someone just can't compile themselves out of a garbage can!!!!! Just hurry up release it and let everyone else try to fix it!!!!So far 3 debs to no results! Trying sudo apt-get fglrx-updates. Same error check log. Guess I am going to be a big part of the national deficit this month!!!! All for thinking I could update to the 3.7 kernel!!!! Think someone like TheeMahn needs to compile these kernels cause least he makes things work! Other people don't care and just sucker us into trying to fix it!!!!!

[Micro]

I hate to throw this at you but I'm willing to bet that this would suit quite well. This is my prefered choice of kernel, but unfortunately for Ubuntu it is only at version 3.6.8. It's already a .deb so after getting these three packages, install headers first> then image> then source> then reboot. Goto here and download the headers and image http://pf.natalenko.name/binaries/ubuntu/3.6.8/amd64/. Then go here and get the source http://pf.natalenko.name/binaries/ubuntu/3.6.8/. It has all the patches that Liquorix has, and I can vouch for the stability. I do not have any experience with fglrx or ati drivers, but if your up to it, we can drive on. This is the main page if you want to check it out too http://pf.natalenko.name/. And believe me when I say I feel your frustration. Wish I had your machine as a test case. Could have probably save you alot of time and gave you better guidance...

[BBOSAK2143]

Downloaded this 3.7 exton one and is a lot closer but still have the messed up folders. Yes had it all in debs just like the other one which seems to have shredded 3.2! I didn't think a new kernel could destroy the old, but guess am wrong on that! So now I believe since the old one has been destroyed when this other tried to go in got messed on it! Was showing Xorg and the backsplash is coming up and working so believe that one is good. Just need someone real experienced with this stuff! I just thought once these kernels are pre-compiled deb wise are done correctly before letting all of us suffer out here!!!! Is no offense at all to Ultimate in fact is quite a miracle it can run in this poor state caused by people that just are doing something right!!!! Might be another day on this stuff will see. Ole lady is muffed!!!! Got some rentals and not sure can do anything in this state, but will try!!! If I get no success with this exton one will download the one you're talking about! Just got bummed and don't take wrong way!!! Been on this all day watching and trying to solve the errors!!! Need help on this one as is above my knowledge!!!!

[pam]

Like Micro said it will take some time.
Fret not, i know its hair pulling but give it some time and blow off some steam...
Get back at it and you will know what to do......

Upgrading to the latest and greatest in linux can be a nightmare and a harrowing experience for people trying to make it. Most of the mainline kernels are not geared towards stability and usability let alone good working OS!!
Mainline kernels are for kernel developers and modders who need the latest features that can help in their builds.
Kernel 3.7's main purpose is supporting ARM out of the box, so arm kernel developers for the first time in history can sit back, program and compile stuff...........sure you will get your way around but in no way will you have a stable sane system for serious work.......that's why one always needs a spare to make, test and break and then make it again...Or better a spare partition for applying newer tech stuff to gamble and see if it works even better than the stable one.

All the error messages that you get from 3.7 can be overwhelming especially if you are new to linux.....if you are hell bent on finding your way around, its your choice and you will learn lots to apply it elsewhere and that's even if you are unable to mend it.

liquorix kernels are supported extremely well and are primarily geared for desktop and compiz(even if not intended)..no crashes. NO luck with it......well just keep the install extremely straightforward and try again.......and maybe for the last time.

radeon 3000 is pretty old but powerful for desktop usage.........i suggest you try downloading and installing amd drivers from their website.

Tinkering with fgrlx on a sane system will make you insane and trying to mend it on a mainline kernel.......well you get the point!!

http://askubuntu.com/questions/162616/s ... ne-kernels

[BBOSAK2143]

Yeah it was quite a nightmare! Appears this problem I experience has been around for some time! Since the RC version! All methods of repair were unsuccessful on the 3.7.0-30700_3.7.0-0307.201212102335. I highly recommend this version be avoided as is not compiled properly. It somehow affects the kernel you are upgrading from. Very fortunate for me, I was able to find a more successful kernel version 3.7.0-5-exton_3.7.0-5.13 which is available in deb form at http://extonlinux.wordpress.com/. After installing I rebooted splash screen was there and finally when desktop was coming up there was Unity, so I knew was good to go. Sure there are a few error messages when installing the headers. Appears a few files located in the firmware folder for radeon are not created. Since they were not included with original kernel 3.2 is not a big deal and seems to not cause any trouble. For those that might require those files here is the site to get them:
http://git.exherbo.org/summer/packages/ ... index.html Now this is what I call a kernel since is quite responsive! Could see signs of it with the other but do not know what the extent of the damage to it is. Do not possess that knowledge yet! So please avoid the listed one ending 35 is just not repairable. If you can repair it, might as well start building them yourself. Am sure Linus would not mind help! Okay now that I am here with a fine working kernel smoothly running booting, rebooting, shutting down, the works am lost on removing 3.2! When I try it only wants to upgrade! Perhaps I just don't know the proper command! Once again, lack of knowledge! Am thinking a lot of the 348 updates awaiting might also have to do with that old kernel. So need some advice on this as want to be done with 3.2 and just stay with 3.7 on Ultimate! Is a great feeling to finally succeed! Didn't happen til 11:30pm last night! Pam, I think smoke was coming out of my ears yesterday! Just really thought when someone compiles and sets to deb, it is done! Now I know I was wrong! Also apologize for getting a little brash on here with the first post in this segment! It just pains me to see a great system as Ultimate being cashed by someone's failure to check their own work! Love Ultimate way too much since has always given me more time to learn! Here's sysinfo and am hoping someone has advice where to go from here as 348 updates can probably be avoided if that 3.2 is removed!

[Micro]

Congrats! I usually keep one kernel behind just encase. But all you need to do is open synaptic and find the 3.2 headers, image and source. and completely remove them. If you have linux-kbuild-3.2 you can remove this also. Then reboot and start updates as normal. Glad to hear you worked through this...

[pch.shot]

[BBOSAK2143]

Strange situation here!!! Never seems to be easy! Appears there is a terrible catch 22! When I go into synaptic manager I notice 3.7 is marked for removal. So if I select 3.2 I get the shaft and lose the system! So I think that method is out of the question, unfortunately!!! Just found that out a few minutes ago! Was just about to hit apply when I figured would take one last look! Good thing I did or would be reloading again!!!! Any other ideas or should I just do like Johnny Cash and get one piece at a time with these updates, to make sure I don't upgrade a kernel I don't want? Seems I never land in easy positions, do I???? Thanks for putting up with me! Really appreciate all the help as am really learning the most valuable stuff!!!

[pch.shot]

You don't have to do all or any of the updates. Hell, I use an OS that is from 2001 and if I have to re-install, I turn off automatic updates! They don't do anything! Once in a blue moon there is something of use. Not very often however. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it!

[pam]

+1 pch.shot.......no need for updates.......there is absolutely no reason for removing 3.2.........it wont interfere nor create any problems, ever.

Default kernel for ubuntu like 3.6 series or any of the stable ones are natively supported officially and not mainline ones. So 3.7 is not supported.

Install grub-customizer to change your boot order so that every time you power on you directly boot into the OS you want.

Also whatever messages anywhere else on a working os just ignore them......wont cause any harm.

Great going BBOSAK2143!!